ddulaney 4 hours ago

It’s fascinating to me what a different view of risk we had in the past.

The no damage being caused on the surface was a “new fact”. That would never fly today, for better or for worse.

  • Aloha 3 hours ago

    I think one of the problems of modern society is the level of risk people deem acceptable - its now near zero, instead of "reasonable risks".

    Aside from that, culturally the value we impart on a single human life has also changed too - death used to be much more common, infant death in particular - its not uncommon to go to an old cemetery and see a single family having buried three or more children, with another 2-3 having survived to adulthood. This was not something limited to the lower classes either, Calvin Coolidge had a son who died of sepsis from a blister while he was president.

    • ndileas 2 hours ago

      Are you implying that was, somehow, good? Because it was bad. Most major religions / ethical paradigms agree on this.

      People, individually, should take risks if that's what they want, and it's not going to hurt others. I'm totally fine with skydiving, base jumping, rock climbing, whatever. I'm not fine with pumping chemicals into the local water table because that's the way Grandpa do.

      • Aloha 2 hours ago

        The biggest issue I have, is we allow large organizations to make decisions on difuse/abstract risks - often without owning the liability from those choices, but roll many liabilities up for an individual choice to an organization - its perverse, and should be the other way around.

        If I do something that earns me a darwin award at work, my company probably should not be liable for it.

    • resource_waste 2 hours ago

      >I think one of the problems of modern society is the level of risk people deem acceptable - its now near zero, instead of "reasonable risks".

      I've watched plenty of youtube videos that say something like 'But management needed dem profits so they took the risk'

      So... let us not pretend we don't cut corners and take risk. There are plenty of modern deaths and environmental destruction because people take risk.

      What I think should be more acceptable, is that people take personal risks. Nothing wrong with accepting risk being the first person in an unregulated prototype space ship or taking unverified medicine.

      • Aloha 2 hours ago

        The regulatory and legal strangleholds we have put on modern society allows large organizations to roll the dice with abstract and diffuse risks - often without owning the liability from those choices, but often preclude individuals from taking their own personal risk assessments and deciding to take part or not - because the liability rolls someplace else (aka, you can always sue).